Ananasii wrote:Sir Ophiuchus wrote:[canofworms2] Perhaps the vocals for a healer checking someone should be "Healer Discern". Or "Delve Pattern".
What is wrong with the current "Detect Wound, Pattern Effect, Poison or Disease"?
Does exactly what it says on the tin, making it clear what it can and cant pick up, and since you've got to spend a bit of time concentrating anyway, reducing the time it takes to say it doesn't matter
Because it doesn't actually do what it says on the tin.
A Control is a Pattern Effect, for example, but it doesn't get picked up by a Healer's scan.
Edit to give a detailed answer:
Here are the canonical Pattern Effects. The ones that are actually picked up by a Healer discern are in bold. The ones that are instantaneous or otherwise irrelevant for detection are in italics.
Rules 3 Pattern Effects wrote:Attract Unliving
Chant of Sanctuary
Chant of Wasting
Control Ancestral
Control Daemon
Control Elemental
Control Unliving
Decay
Detect Unliving
Disease
Embody Unliving
Fatal Wound
Halt Unliving
Heal Fatal Wound
Heal Wound
High Control Ancestral
High Control Daemon
High Control Elemental
High Control Unliving
High Countermagic
High Dismiss
Paralysis
Protection from Paralysis
Remove Decay
Remove Disease
Remove Paralysis
Repair Unliving
Shield from Corruption
Speak with dead
Total Heal
Everything that isn't bold or italic should be detectable by a "Detect Pattern Effects", but is consistently ruled to not be detectable by a Healer's scan.
If it was actually Detect Pattern Effects, I should know if someone I discerned was under a Protection from Paralysis, a Control Elemental, and a Chant of Sanctuary, for example.
Edit 2: Note that discerning for "Diseases" is therefore redundant. Also, many of these things have IC ramifications. If I could tell if someone was under a Control, or whether an Incantor was actually doing a sanctuary or just faking it, or who was Embodying Unliving, just with a Healer scan, which the current vocals imply but the actual in-play rulings forbid, it makes a huge difference.
Therefore I'm saying we should change the Healer discern vocal so it doesn't actually break the rules.
IC: Daire Ó Draoi
OC: Stephen from Ireland
Formerly Tomás Mac Carthaigh